Curse

Aris the Accurate · Dec 04, 2007, 04:04 PM // 16:04

as a primary pvp player I was looking for a way to take some aspect of pvp into pve with me..and I made this ^.^

[card]Never Rampage alone[/card]
[card]Forceful Blow[/card]
[card]Fierce Blow[/card]
[card]Heavy Blow[/card]
[card]Crushing Blow[/card]
[card]Charm Animal[/card]
[card]Comfort Animal[/card]
[card]Resurrection Signet[/card]

so what ya think?

Pyro maniac · Dec 04, 2007, 04:14 PM // 16:14

[skill]Hammer Bash[/skill] + [skill]Crushing Blow[/skill]
and prefer beast master elite, if you take never rampage alone, you could consider [skill]Enraged Lunge[/skill] or [skill]Ferocious Strike[/skill]
[skill]Heal as One[/skill] is still nice as elite as well, no need to bring comfort animal and still got self-heal without speccing in wilderness

Wakka · Dec 04, 2007, 04:16 PM // 16:16

I agree with RaO, Hammer elites dont work the best in this build ^^

Hammer Bash is ok, but [skill=text]Counter blow[/skill] would work wonders in PvE as most of the enemies attack quite a lot even if thier casters ^^

Aris the Accurate · Dec 04, 2007, 05:01 PM // 17:01

reason I went with a hammer elite ie because I don't spec enough into BM to make use out of an elite from that atrib. I see nothing wrong with +34 dmg for 5 adren..and it starts a nice chain.

Wakka · Dec 04, 2007, 05:03 PM // 17:03

Im just not too sure if your IAS is going to be high enough with Never Rampage Alone. You may also find that having no speed boost might also effect it ^^

Aris the Accurate · Dec 04, 2007, 05:12 PM // 17:12

why would you need a speed boost in pve? and a 25% isnt as great as a 33% when it comes to ias but it gets the job done

Pyro maniac · Dec 04, 2007, 08:13 PM // 20:13

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Originally Posted by Aris the Accurate

why would you need a speed boost in pve? and a 25% isnt as great as a 33% when it comes to ias but it gets the job done

agreed on that

but I find the elite a bit weak, even in PvE mobs block, however it could be done if you use irresistable blow next to it. Apart form the fact that it's a spammable hammer attack, it fills up the weakness of the elite: blocking

Wakka · Dec 04, 2007, 11:22 PM // 23:22

I tested it on the Master of Damage in the isle of the nameless. And I found the 33% IAS managed to achieve death in 3 seconds quicker than the 25% one ^^ The first took 18 seconds while the latter took 21. Yummy.

Still dont like the elite ^^ Try Pulv Smash it rocks would be nice in there in place of crushing and would also create the weakness needed for your chain allowing for a better elite.

Aris the Accurate · Dec 04, 2007, 11:41 PM // 23:41

id be up for running pulv if you can tell me what I would use to cause the inital kd, and what skill would you recommend taking out for the skill to cause the kd

reddswitch · Dec 05, 2007, 08:32 AM // 08:32

Brawling Headbutt: Deldrimor PvE skill
7 adrenaline, 3/4 cast
You headbutt target touched foe, dealing 30...70 damage and knocking down that foe if it hits.

Wakka · Dec 05, 2007, 09:39 AM // 09:39

Yes I agree with reddswitch here, turn to your pve skills.

Skills like Brawling Headbutt and...

"You Move Like a Dwarf!"
Shout. Target foe is knocked down and takes 30...80 damage. When that foe gets up, it is Crippled for 5...15 seconds.

Club of a Thousand Bears
Melee Attack. If this attack hits, you deal +5...9 damage for each adjacent foe (maximum 60 bonus damage). If target foe is non-human it is knocked down.

If you havent unlocked those skills yet, maybe consider some skills such as...

[skill]Counter Blow[/skill][skill]Bull's Strike[/skill][skill]Pounce[/skill]

Which will all produce conditional, but easy to achieve knockdowns.

Or if your wanting to keep Never Rampage Alone it gives you an elite slot which give's you bucket loads of options for knockdowns ^^ Consider...

[skill]Backbreaker[/skill][skill]Earth Shaker[/skill][skill]Magehunter's Smash[/skill][skill]Bull's Charge[/skill][skill]"Coward!"[/skill]

So some example builds...

[skill]Earth Shaker[/skill][skill]Fierce Blow[/skill][skill]Heavy Blow[/skill][skill]Comfort Animal[/skill][skill]Charm Animal[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]

[skill]Bull's Charge[/skill][skill]Heavy Blow[/skill][skill]Renewing Smash[/skill][skill]Comfort Animal[/skill][skill]Charm Animal[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]

[skill]Counter Blow[/skill][skill]Fierce Blow[/skill][skill]Heavy Blow[/skill][skill]Heal As One[/skill][skill]Charm Animal[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]

[skill]Fierce Blow[/skill][skill]Auspicious Blow[/skill][skill]Comfort Animal[/skill][skill]Charm Animal[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]

Aris the Accurate · Dec 05, 2007, 02:56 PM // 14:56

i dont like the brawlling headbut majig...only 70 dmg, were as with forceful i usually do 100+ dmg for 5 adren. ive run backbreaker and its a nice boss killer ^.^. bulls charge and coward I cant see working well in pve..not enough kiting unless they are running out of aoe dmg, though club of a thousand bears does look interisting..thx

Wakka · Dec 05, 2007, 02:59 PM // 14:59

I like Earth Shaker myself ^^ especially when coupled with some AoE.